The Game Before the Money: Oral History of Pro and College Football

Raiders Hall of Fame coach Tom Flores reflects on moments from Super Bowl 15 and Super Bowl 18. He also shares about playing quarterback for the Raiders in the 1960s in the American Football League and his college career at Pacific.

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George Toma has been the groundskeeper for every single Super Bowl, from Super Bowl I through Super Bowl LV. He shares stories about preparing the field for Super Bowls and the 1966 NFL Championship Game, his work with the AFL, as well as his early life in Pennsylvania’s coal country.

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Dick Vermeil shares memories of coaching the Eagles, Rams, and Chiefs. He also discusses winning the Rose Bowl at UCLA, growing up in California, and his friendship with Bill Walsh. Coach Vermeil was an NFL head coach in the 1970s, 80s, 90s, and early 2000s.

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Did you know that only a handful of NFL quarterbacks have won the Super Bowl? A mere 4 quarterbacks have combined to win 30 percent of all Super Bowls and only 33 quarterbacks have ever won the big game. Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes have both won at least 1 Super Bowl and so the number of Super Bowl winning quarterbacks in NFL history isn’t going to change after Super Bowl 55. In fact, the trend of only a few quarterbacks winning league championships goes all the way back to the 1940s and includes the American Football League and the AFL Championship Game.

The pattern also extends to the AFC Championship Game and the NFC Championship Game. Since 1998, the AFC Championship Game has featured at least one of a select group of six quarterbacks starting the game. Learn more about this QB reality in this football history podcast.

Episodes of The Game before the Money Podcast are released each week, except for certain episodes that take about two weeks to create. The show is produced and hosted by Jackson Michael, author of The Game before the Money: Voices of the Men Who Built the NFL, published by the University of Nebraska Press. Many episodes feature interviews with pro and college football legends. Learn more at https://TheGameBeforeTheMoney.com.

Lamar Hunt founded both the American Football League and the Kansas City Chiefs. He hired Hank Stram as the team’s head coach and the franchise won more AFL championships than any other team. Learn how Hunt and Stram built the Chiefs (originally known as the Dallas Texans) and how connections with two universities played a major role in the team’s history. You’ll also find out how the Chiefs got their name.

This episode is a “Five Minutes of Football History” edition of The Game before the Money Podcast. 

Episodes of The Game before the Money Podcast are released each week, except when certain episodes take longer to create. The show is produced and hosted by Jackson Michael, author of The Game before the Money: Voices of the Men Who Built the NFL, published by the University of Nebraska Press. Many episodes feature interviews with pro and college football legends. Learn more at https://TheGameBeforeTheMoney.com.

Pete Koch interviews with The Game before the Money Podcast and talks about his NFL career and starring in the movie Heartbreak Ridge with Clint Eastwood.

Pete Koch talks about being a first-round draft pick in 1984 and what it was like to hold out for a better contract. He also shares stories about starting on the defensive line for the Chiefs and Raiders. He shares memories of Chiefs’ owner Lamar Hunt, playing against John Elway, and what made Hall of Famer Howie Long such a great player.

You will also learn some helpful workout tips from a former NFL player who remains in fantastic shape!

This is a repeat of an episode that was first released in 2018.

Episodes of The Game before the Money Podcast are released each week. The show is produced and hosted by Jackson Michael, author of The Game before the Money: Voices of the Men Who Built the NFL, published by the University of Nebraska Press. Many episodes feature interviews with pro and college football legends. Learn more at https://TheGameBeforeTheMoney.com.

Pete Brewster played nine seasons in the NFL, including seven with Paul Brown’s legendary Cleveland Browns of the 1950s and made the Pro Bowl as a receiver. He also worked as an assistant coach for the Kansas City Chiefs when they won Super Bowl 4 and was a member of the very first Minnesota Vikings coaching staff.

Brewster shared stories with me during the summer of 2019. He talked about why he chose Purdue and how he ended up playing for the Browns despite being drafted by the Cardinals. He remembered the great Cleveland teams of the 1950s and how Otto Graham paid him an enormous compliment. Brewster finished his playing career with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Brewster passed away in January of 2020.

The Game before the Money Podcast comes out each Tuesday. Author Jackson Michael hosts and produces the program. The podcast often features stories from pro and college football legends. You can learn more at https://TheGameBeforeTheMoney.com.    

Pete Koch joins The Game before the Money podcast. Pete was a first-round draft pick of the Bengals in 1984, and later played for the Kansas City Chiefs and Los Angeles Raiders. He also starred with Clint Eastwood in the movie Heartbreak Ridge. 

He discusses what it was like to be a first-round draft pick, the glory years of the 1980s AFC West, and what made Howie Long such an exceptional defensive lineman.